Willie Geist started the Morning Joe discussion about Mike Johnson's view of America.
"A new report by Rolling Stone looks into house speaker Mike Johnson's views on American culture, which he calls, quote, 'dark and depraved.' In an October prayer call just last month with the World Prayer Network, weeks before he became speaker of the House, Johnson talked about an America facing a civilizational moment," he said.
JOHNSON: The only question is, is God going to allow our nation to enter a time of judgment for our collective sins which his mercy and grace have held back for some time, or is he going to give us one more chance to restore the foundations and return to him? We will not be able to do it without the Lord's help because there's so -- the flesh is, and the mistrust and the sin and everything is so great here that we -- this is going to have to bring people to their knees, and look, I believe God is about to do something.
PASTOR JIM GARLOW: Do you have time to answer the question or any anything more about the issue of, this could be a time of judgment for America?
JOHNSON: Well, I mean, I don't -- I would be -- I'm saying I preach to the choir on this Zoom call or maybe the honor choir of the state we're in. This is the slowest in the history of our nation. The culture is so dark and depraved that it almost seems irredeemable at this point. The church attendance in America dropped below 50% for the first time in our history since they began to measure the data 60 years ago, and the number of people who do not believe in absolute truth is now above the majority for the first time. So 1 in 3 teen girls contemplated suicide last year. 1 in 4 students identified as something other than straight. We're losing the country.
"Irredeemable, dark and depraved. Let's lift out of the subtext. What he's talking about here is that we have gay people in America and he said, 1 in 4 high school students say that they are something other than straight, is the way he put it," Geist said.
"So he's very worried about that, but also, I just have to say, Joe, he said the faith in our institutions and doubt about absolute truth -- this is the man who helped to lead the attempted coup against the United States government and overturn the 2020 election. He's very worried about faith in institutions."
"Willie, he ran the Big Lie on Capitol Hill. Preach about that, Jimmy Swaggart. Right? And then go to your motel room and start, like, faxing around, you know, conspiratorial documents. It is the hypocrisy. There's so much hypocrisy to go back to, whether it's Jim and Tammy Fay Baker. "Whether it's Jimmy Swaggart," Joe Scarborough said.
"There's so much hypocrisy about a guy, again, trying to undermine our institutions. The guy who is trying -- who led in the House of Representatives, he attempted to undermine the United States Constitution, an American presidential election and an attempt to basically end American democracy, and then suddenly, suddenly this great prophet -- this Jeremiah of our times went quietly silent as mobs rushed the people's House where he was, and battered and abused police officers with American flags that our soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen took into battle over 200 years to defend this country.
"The hypocrisy, the hypocrisy in the words of -- I think it was Homer Simpson when somebody accidentally threw communion water in his eyes. 'It burns! It burns!'"
You have to wonder what effect having a House speaker, who believes America is depraved and that God might punish us at any minute, would have on the legislative process. I mean, why bother? Just brings out the witch trials and start hanging the wicked.
Of course, it's very possible that Mike Johnson is projecting his own perceived sins onto others, and so he will see sin everywhere he looks -- except in the mirror. Just sayin'!