Ayman Mohyeldin and James Carville were talking about the absolute sh*tshow that is the Republican candidate lineup.
"Speaking of candidate quality, James, it's got Mehmet Oz, you got Mastriano, you've got Herschel Walker, yep, Blake Masters," Mohyeldin said.
"How big a problem for the GOP is that this is the field of candidates running in this cycle?"
Carville, never one to mince words, stated the obvious.
"I've said it before. They have a lot of stupid people vote in the primaries. They really do. I'm not really supposed to say that but it's an obvious fact. But when stupid people vote, you know who they nominate? Other stupid people. The Republicans have a problem. They have very low quality people who vote in the primaries and they're producing very predictably low quality candidates. It's evident right in front of them."
He also had some advice for Democratic candidates.
"The people that want to accomplish something, whether Social Security, Medicare, choice, guns, you will not be able to accomplish it when you are not in a democracy. So the only way you can receive the will of the voters in this country or in any country is through a democracy. So if Democrats run the campaign that they're strongest on and emphasize those issues as we see in Michigan and other states, they can win," he said.
"Can a message about democracy beat out a right-wing fearmongering message over borders and crime?" Mohyeldin asked.
"First of all, the ten states with the highest crime rate, eight are run by Republicans. Republicans who control them actually have higher crime rates. When Bill Clinton passed the crime bill in 1993, we had the largest drop in violent crime we've had in American history. it did not come back until the last year of Donald Trump's administration. I have no idea why the Democrats would run away from the crime issue.
"By the way, this country needs immigrants. I like immigrants. I'm for immigrants. We should take that right to them. Ask these farmers if they need immigrants. Talk about Florida. Let me tell you where they need immigrants and they need them now: Southwest Florida. So I don't think we need to pivot, of course democracy is essential to us as a country. It's what we are all told that people fought and died for. They've just turned a complete back on it," Carville said.
"But you can run under democracy, you can run on crime, you can run on immigration. There is no reason why you have to back off from any of these issues. You're right. Democracy, and Matthew's right, that's the most important issue, but other issues are important to people and don't act like we can't run on them because we can."