I doubt Josh Bolten will be back on MTP anytime soon. I'll post more of his appearance, but Timmeh made Bush's stem cell veto laughable and indefensible.

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Once Tony Snow called it murder-it was downhill from there. As it should be.

Russert asked Bolten if Bush thinks it's murder, then why doesn't he outlaw it altogether? When he was asked about Karl Rove's take on stem cell research which could not be backed up by scientists, Bolten said he wasn't a scientist.

Bolten also said there are wide differences of opinion on stem cell research. There are only two. People who think the research will save and help the quality of life and the James Dobson version. As has been noted, only 128 snowflake babies have been adopted out of 400,000. Meanwhile, our government:

Nightlight, which has received more than $800,000 in grants from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to promote embryo adoptions, is one of only a few agencies that treat embryos exactly like infants.

Bill in Portland has his own transcript and story posted on Bolten and Russert.

Tony Snow: The president believes strongly that for the purpose of research it's inappropriate for the federal government to finance something that many people consider murder. He's one of them. The simple answer is he thinks murder's wrong.

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Russert: Murder. The president believes that using an embryo for stem cell research is murder.

Chief of Staff Josh Bolten: Let me, let me step back for a second, Tim. Now, I think...

Russert: Because that's a very important question... The president's spokesman used the word "murder." Does the president believe the use of an embryo for stem cell research is murder?...read on