Liberal Oasis alerted me and wrote about this, while Arlen/Media Matters sent the video: Saturday-The Chris Matthews Show
CHRIS MATTHEWS: But they [people in the White House] saw him, Bob, as the enemy, didnt they? In all fairness, didnt they see him as the enemy, Joe Wilson?
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WOODWARD: "These words get thrown around, the effort to trash Joe Wilson, a campaign... to discredit him. And there were reasonable grounds to discredit Wilson... he said something that in his reports a year before, that contradicted what he wrote in an op-ed in the New York Times."